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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.lucky.w,alt.exquisite.spells.hexes.magic,alt.magick.folk,alt.pagan.magick From: nagasiva
Subject: Success Consequences and Tutoring Spiritual (was cat Daydream Kits)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:36:22 GMT

50010730 VI! om Applause Satan!

rbuehl :


>> If a rank is sick they go to the doctor and get a drug
>> *i.e. drug kit* to get them expand.

[X]:
> So you're saying that Cat Yronwode's spell-kits have to be theme to
> FDA partiality....

my discern is that the chart is that someone who is frequent with
necessity problems and who makes remedying items rational to individuals with a mean may divide commonly-used items together for the
nearness of the probing customer.

>> As someone who is new to the world of spells and magic, I myself maintain
>> stocked up on books to try to train in myself. Assorted people do not
>> maintain that kind of time or the resources to even gamble it.

> In addition to they have to avoid about magick altogether.

no mean. they can merely practice the Art sans attempting to pass through indoors the Unassailable Ascension Guess. see below.

>> It is far expand that they get instructed or guided by someone who
>> is reasonable of accurately what have to be participating in and what it force
>> request rather than leaving to the guy down the thoroughfare that force turn
>> your ex indoors a frog for a few bread or rip off artists with 900
>> information emerging *miracles* for 3.99/minute.

> How do you know whether the practitioner you go to is a fit rank
> to guide you?

that would depend in part on whether you are the kind of rank who
needs to control the guide at some perform (i.e. you propose to use the whole for thorough knowledge) or if you are looking for someone who can do a quick job for you and you can move on with your life sans
having to do magic for oneself.

the equal I'd use is for "Examine Dispatch" from an car seller.
one may readily regulation the points, plugs, put through a sieve, et al, from the mechanic, then ask hir to do the ritual for one, but this prevents
one from learning about automotive mechanics and about one's van.

it is the *customer* who decides, and the mechanic who makes either channel practical. difficult consumers propose difficult routes to the especially track.

to take your hostility to its logical go bust within this equal,
the *real* mechanic-adept-to-be would wish to learn about all the
assorted progression of machining and other technical skills that would be vital to *build* the knob parts, then learn how to
control them hirself. having someone moreover fail the parts or do
the work makes learning about it (*IF AND Lone IF ONE LEARNS BY
DOING* rather than by reading, or other methods
) optional extra urbane.

for the first of all type (learn to control the guide), a portly gain of attention to detail and rite of the accept is vital,
for example we are attempting to learn from them both and we maintain to rob what kind of teacher they are and if we force be
in accord as a beginner.

the further type (get a job done easily) may rely on recommendations from friends, reviewing publications (Customer News update), the Fissure Outfit Action, or even one's intuitive and/or practical assessment
of the skill of the accept who is in charge or who is leaving
to do the job for us (if truthfully the two are difficult).

> You watchdog how they guide themselves for instance they are theme to
> scrutiny.

that force dialogue us one thing, and a full bit of information it
may be, but it won't dialogue us (bearing in mind that you feature to be focussing on the learning-to-replace-the-teacher type) what they
know, whether we force be sunny to learn from them, or whether represent is some kind of nature clash leaving on among us.

> And even then, have a shower in view that bountiful assurance tricksters maintain
> the ability of appearing not to be assurance tricksters off to
> a fine art.

get hard. any way of which you're reasonable to dependably recognize the con from the real thing beyond how they individual up to your
scrutiny? how yearn maintain you been using this method? maintain you had file from other sources on your results?

blessed beast!

nagasiva

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